Let's discuss and learn about Fender Musicmaster Amps and accessories here.
Thanks for making this wonderful "Tone" thread.
Tomo
Hi Tomo (and anybody who has an opinion on Tube Screamers).
After your years of experience with Tube Screamers, do you recommend a certain model that is a good match with the Musicmaster Bass amp.
Thanks!
Kurt
"Not guessing" trending
Thank you Kurt!
Ibanez TS808 (current model) is so good!
Tomo
Thanks! So nice when the current model is great and you don't need to hunt for a vintage one.
Kurt
I have a Boss SD1 - which is their take on the tube screamer. I like it a lot and it's my main overdrive. I do also have an 808 close that I built from a General Guitar Gadgets kit. It's pretty good, but I prefer the Boss pedal.
Yes kurt!
Really good!
Tomo
Thank you Matt.
Boss OD1 & SD1 are so good!
Great choice!
Tomo
Playlist with a few Tomo videos I found on YouTube:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmCPcsd78H-Pwls9XHYvzHbtaRih6Ig4I&si=JzImOW2JvJtRf8E5
This one might be of particular interest to the Musicmaster crowd:
"My Best Sounding Cheap Pedals!!"
From the description, gear is:
Ibanez AZ 2204 Custom 3S
Fender Musicmaster Bass Amp (V 2.5, Tone 7)
One Control Prussian Blue Reverb
Ibanez TS9
Boss DS-1
Boss TU-2
Providence Cable E-205
D'Addario EXL110 (10-46)
Pickboy TF Signature 1mm pick
Oh, wow Ralph!
The mother lode!
I really appreciate this playlist!
Fun to see that setup! I have been using a Boss OD-3 as a boost.
Kurt
Great set up Ralph!
Thanks for following my suggestions on gear!
Tomo
I think this was the video that inspired me to try a Musicmaster bass amp for practice:
Why Bass Amp? | Best Practice Guitar Amp | Fender MUSICMASTER Bass Amp
Best wishes,
- R
Oh yeah! Love these deep dives!
So great to see this.
I see that I actually commented on this over 3 years ago. I ended by saying this:
"Happy St. Patrick's Day! Good chance to wear the Tube Screamer T-shirt!"
Thanks so much Ralph.
Kurt
Thank you Ralph for sharing this video!
Tomo
This lesson is super-duper helpful!
Thanks, Tomo!
Kurt
"These volume and tone settings, on your guitar and amplifier, will help you to improve your technique, every time you practice!"
FT Tone Secrets - The Best Tone for Practice
https://tomovhxtv.vhx.tv/videos/ft-tone-secrets-the-best-tone-for-practice
Thank you Kurt for sharing this video!
One of super duper important videos!
Not secret anymore!
Tomo
I think this is interesting. Sorry it is so long.
Kurt
The Fender Musicmaster Bass Amp from the 1970s stands out from other Fender amps of the era due to its minimalist design, unique tube configuration, and its unexpected tonal versatility. Here's what sets it apart:
🎛️ Simplified Control Layout
Only two knobs: Volume and Tone — no reverb, no vibrato, no master volume.
Designed originally as a student-level bass amp, so it was stripped down for ease of use.
🔌 Tube Configuration
Most units used two 6V6 power tubes and a 12AX7 preamp tube, delivering around 12 watts of output.
Some later models used 6AQ5 tubes, which are smaller and less common in Fender amps.
This tube setup gave it a warm, clean tone at low volumes and a fuzzy, crunchy overdrive when cranked — more guitar-friendly than bass-friendly.
🔊 Speaker & Cabinet
Came with a single 12" speaker, often a CTS or Oxford — larger than the 10" speakers found in other small Fender amps like the Champ.
Compact cabinet design made it portable, but still capable of decent projection.
🧪 Circuit Simplicity
The amp’s circuit is extremely basic, with fewer components than other Fender models like the Princeton or Deluxe Reverb.
No negative feedback loop in early models, which contributed to its raw, uncompressed tone.
🎸 Tonal Identity
Though marketed for bass, it became a cult favorite among guitarists and harmonica players for its gritty breakup and vintage vibe.
Its low headroom and natural tube saturation made it ideal for studio use and small gigs.
🛠️ Modding Potential
Because of its simple design, it’s a popular platform for DIY mods — like adding reverb, upgrading transformers, or swapping speakers.
Some players even rewire it to mimic the tone of a Princeton or Tweed Deluxe.
Compared to other Fender amps from the 1970s — like the Twin Reverb, Bassman, or Vibrolux — the Musicmaster Bass Amp is more primitive, but that’s exactly what gives it its charm. It’s a sleeper hit for those chasing vintage tone on a budget.
🔌 Power Supply Section
Power Transformer steps down AC voltage and feeds the rectifier.
Rectifier (usually solid-state diodes) converts AC to DC.
Filter Capacitors smooth out the DC voltage to reduce hum.
Dropping Resistors create separate voltage rails for preamp and power amp stages.
🎛️ Preamp Section
Uses a single 12AX7 tube, split into two gain stages.
Input jacks feed into grid resistors and coupling capacitors to shape the signal.
Tone control is a simple treble-cut circuit — not a full tone stack like in larger Fender amps.
Volume and Tone pots are passive and placed after the first gain stage.
🔁 Phase Inverter (Unique Feature)
Instead of a traditional tube phase inverter, it uses an interstage transformer to split the signal into push-pull for the power tubes.
This is rare in Fender amps and contributes to its raw, lo-fi character.
🔊 Power Amp Section
Typically uses two 6V6 tubes in a push-pull configuration.
Cathode-biased, meaning no need for a bias adjustment — great for simplicity.
Output transformer drives a single 12" speaker.
🧪 Notable Circuit Quirks
No negative feedback loop, which gives it a more open, uncompressed sound.
Grid leak biasing on the input stage — a vintage technique that adds character but can be noisy.
Low filtering in the power supply — contributes to its gritty breakup when pushed.
How does the interstage transformer affect the amp's sound?
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The interstage transformer in the Fender Musicmaster Bass Amp plays a pivotal role in shaping its sonic character — and it’s one of the quirkiest features that sets it apart from other Fender designs.
🎚️ What It Does
It replaces the more common tube phase inverter, which splits the signal into two out-of-phase signals to drive the push-pull power tubes.
The transformer performs this split passively, using magnetic coupling rather than active amplification.
🎵 How It Affects the Sound
Lower Headroom: The transformer doesn’t amplify the signal like a tube inverter would, so the amp breaks up earlier — giving it a gritty, lo-fi overdrive when pushed.
Raw Tone: Without the smoothing effect of a tube inverter, the amp has a more immediate, uncompressed response. It feels “direct” and slightly rough around the edges.
Tighter Bass: Some transformer designs (especially those with nickel cores) resist saturation better, which can help maintain clarity in low frequencies — though the Musicmaster’s transformer is modest and not optimized for bass fidelity.
Vintage Vibe: The transformer introduces subtle phase shift and harmonic coloration, contributing to the amp’s warm, vintage tone. It’s part of why harmonica players and lo-fi guitarists love it.
⚙️ Design Trade-Offs
Impedance Matching: The transformer provides a low-impedance drive to the power tubes, which can improve stability and reduce noise — but it also limits dynamic range.
Frequency Response: Transformers can roll off high and low frequencies depending on their core material and winding ratio. The Musicmaster’s transformer has a modest bandwidth, which contributes to its midrange-forward tone2.
Modding Considerations: Swapping the transformer for a tube phase inverter can increase headroom and fidelity, but you lose that unique breakup and character.
In short, the interstage transformer is a big part of what gives the Musicmaster Bass Amp its gritty charm and cult appeal. It’s not hi-fi — and that’s exactly why it sounds so cool.
Kurt, where did you get this?
🔌 Tube Configuration
Most units used two 6V6 power tubes and a 12AX7 preamp tube, delivering around 12 watts of output.
Some later models used 6AQ5 tubes, which are smaller and less common in Fender amps.
Early model used 6AQ5 power tubes!
Very very special amp indeed!
Tomo
Wow Kurt - thanks for doing the research. Mine arrived today. Thankfully, it has the blue sticker - Tomo dropped that bit of guitar wisdom after I ordered, so I was kind of worried I got the wrong thing. It's a 1979. Just plugged in for practice tonight. Brown Box won't come until midweek, so probably will wait to play on it again until then.
Very special amp indeed you guys.
So happy you got the blue label and it arrived Clay!
Will be interesting to see how much voltage our houses are pumping out when we get the Brown Boxes.
I found that Musicmaster info by using Copilot for the first time!
I clicked on the red and blue button on my Windows 11 machine and asked for info on the amp. This came up.
https://copilot.microsoft.com/chats/SgatFVgZ2hE5QdDUbc4u7
Kurt
Thank you Clay for sharing!
1979 is a great year too!
With the blue sticker! I am so happy!
Brown Box is so good!
Tomo
I didn’t know the different tubes. Mine has 6aq5 tube. Does it sound similar to 6v6? I don’t know the difference but it does sound good to me.
Thank you Kurt!
I love this amp so much! Very very special indeed!
That's amazing!
Tomo
Requesting technical advice from the MM Bass Amp club: I get an occasional annoying "static" sound that comes and goes. I have eliminated jacks, pots, cables, pups as issues. I also run power through a Furman RFI/EMI filtering strip. I'm pretty sure this is an RFI issue (not from power source). My "studio" is also my office. I have two computers, three monitors, a wifi printer, and my phone (usually) in here - one or more of these are the likely culprit, but I don't really want to break down the office and move my music gear out. Do any of you know any easy shielding tricks?
Hey Clay.
I've had amps do that.
I was wondering if the Brown Box will help when it comes
Kurt
Some people get paid extra to put annoying static on their records.
Clay does your musicmaster misbehave in another area of the house too? How about plugging in your other amp to the same in that outlet does that duplicate the problem. I would first try the amp in a different outlet/Or flip the plug around the other way. I would experiment with unplugging things if they are all going in sharing the same plug strip. I would try a diff cable. If still happens set the guitar down on the ground put your phone in the basement and go play acoustic for awhile upstairs. Then come back and plug back in. Hope your back in business
W no ground noise soon
Thanks Jeffrey - unfortunately, this is the only tube amp I have. I also have an FRFR speaker and a 1990's Crate DSP amp. I've troubleshot all of my power issues, as even those two others were getting noise - the Furman filter resolved this. I can move the amp or move myself within the room and minimize the problem. I might take another crack at outlet swapping / plug switching, but I'm pretty convinced it's an RF issue. I just plugged in my Strat with lace sensors and that seems better. So it might even be an issue with the SG. Like I'm forming an antenna with it or something. I'll definitely move to another part of the house to test - too late in evening but will try tomorrow. Thanks for the tips!
I use a Furman AC-215A, BrownBox and Musicmaster bass amp and get occasional static. It comes and goes and varies over the course of the day.
My amp came with a three-prong plug which I believe is a common modification. Different amps in the same location exhibit more or less "static" or interference.
Best wishes,
- R
Thanks Ralph - sound exactly like what is happening with me. Kurt mentioned the Brown Box might help too. Mine gets here Wednesday, so will find out soon. I do have a grounded plug as well.
This is so amazing guys ! You can know everything with your Music Master Bass Amp from here , Fantastic thread Thank you Kurt !
Furman AC-215A
I might need one of these, like Clay.
I just have some power strips I've been using. Sounds heavy duty. This thing is 3lbs!
Don't worry! This thread will save us money in the long run guys, honest :-)
Kurt
Furman AC-215A,
https://furmanpower.com/products/ac-215a
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Advanced surge protection: Furman's SMP technology absorbs and dissipates damaging transient voltages without sacrificing components.
Clean power delivery: LiFT (Linear Filtering Technology) ensures optimal audio and video clarity by eliminating AC noise.
Auto-reset voltage shutdown: EVS circuitry detects unsafe voltage levels and powers down connected equipment until conditions stabilize.
Compact design: At just 1.75" high and 3 lbs, it’s ideal for mounting inside a guitar amplifier, behind TVs, inside racks, or on walls.
Compact 10 Amp Power Conditioner with Auto-Resetting Voltage Protection AC-215A
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Hey Kurt - to be clear, I use a Furman M-8X2. It has the EMI/RFI filtering I wanted and worked for previous noise issues. It's about half the price of the AC-215A, and uses their "standard" EMI/RFI filtration. The AC-215A uses a filtration technology they are calling LiFT (linear filtration tech) - they don't explain the difference. I may upgrade to that, but I think the M-8X2 made a big difference with my previous issues. Hopefully combining with the Brown Box will be good enough with the MMBA.
Thanks Clay!
OMG ! I forget Brown Box !
If not Brow Box , MMBA can work ?
Oh I go to know how Brown Box work , so it can help us save money .. !
Okey the Club guys , I get Brown Box Too , maybe is good for amp , good health amp :)
Took me a while but finally found a picture of Eddie Van Halen with a Musicmaster bass amp (mentioned by Tomo in the YouTube video above)
Thanks so much Ralph!
That was how I get know about Musicmaster Bass Amp!
First I saw it in his studio photo from Guitar Magazine in late 80s.
Then I found this amp in mid 90s. I paid $179 (I think!)
This amp became my tone / touch teacher!
Tomo
This is interesting. Love to see someone tear into one of these babies. Takes some of the mystery out of things.
She has lots of good information.
Kurt
Thanks for sharing this video! I met her at NAMM show! Great passion on tube amps!
Tomo
Nice deep dive Kurt - thanks!
Great video, Kurt! Thanks for posting it. Coleen can do it all; she knows how to solder correctly, make her own twisted pairs, and circuit theory, and has all those cool tools. And, she plays guitar! If I weren't so old and married, I would be wondering how good a cook she is!
She had me when I saw the dog owning the couch!
Kurt
Clay, here is another YouTube video of cleaning up the electronics in a Music Master.
Between what this guy (from "Recycle Sound") does especially replacing unscheiled wires in the chassie with shielded wires and what Coleen does, if you know a good TV repairman from the '60s and '70s who now fixes Guitar Amps to do the work, short of building an RFI cage around your study or your MusicMaster, modifications like those that they suggest may be a possible solution.
Thans Richard - that's awesome! Funny - I've thought about just putting a makeshift Faraday cage over it (like a garbage can) just to see what happens.
I don't want to change too much of what Tomo feels makes it a great practice amp, but the shielding idea is great. Especially if it is a known issue with one or two wires.
When I retire, I'd love to do this kind of stuff myself, but for now I'm gonna have to hunt down that '70s TV repair man.
The Brown Box by AMPrx.
Allows you to adjust AC power supply (Voltage reduction) to vintage amps.
Kurt
Demo here:
This is amazing sharing ! Thank you very much , Kurt !