I decided to give the ET01 / FT06 method a try for (a) learning the fretboard (no-memorization approach), (b) ear training, and (c) learning single-octave major scales with root on strings 6,5,4,3.
Here's a question: as I play, do I make my inner voice say note names (which would seem to aid fretboard learning), or make my inner voice say solfege alphabet (seems helpful for ear training), or make my inner voice say degree (could be similar benefits to solfege names?).
Also, if I use the single-string approach on string 2, it is obvious to focus on C major scale.
Then moving up to strings 5 and 6 next seems very useful for remembering where to find the roots of barre chords and power chords. But my ear is so used to hearing Do Re Mi Fa So La Ti Do. If I start on string 5 and play only natural notes, my ear is hearing La Ti Do Re Mi Fa So La or similar. So do I sit at the piano and get my ear used to hearing natural notes starting from A (I guess that's A minor, I should get used to it), or do I start at the third fret and play a familiar C major scale in order? Then I could ask a similar question for string 6, and so on.
I suppose if I just start, over time it will fall into place. Don't worry; don't expect too fast. But I'm curious if there is advice on strategy for following the method outlined in ET01 and FT06.
-Bill
Hi Bill!
So smart to dig into those lessons. Triad lessons are great for learning fretboard and intervals.
You ask good questions.
Tomo always simplifies things for me.
Keep us updated!
Kurt
Don't pay attention to what I'm doing :-)
Thanks, Kurt! I really liked the triad video that included bits of Sultans of Swing, with major and minor triads on strings 3,2,1, root, first inversion, second inversion. That does seem like another good way to learn the fretboard and intervals. I also liked the barre chord video that included bits of Hotel California, which seemed helpful for remembering where to find the root notes on strings 5 and 6.
-Bill
What I am doing now is saying note names as I go across a single string. and sounding out intervals when I am playing positionally (single octave scales in this cntx)
I think its useful to think in note names like you said for chord changes, like: "ok, so I wanna grab the root of the next chord change on the 5th string now!" and in those instances when you are searching for a note in a new chord change, I personally use note names instinctively, so it made sense for me to practice note names going horiztionally on the guitar.
Then when I am practicing playing positionally, then I will always think and count in terms of intervals, as one of the biggest benefits of playing positionally (for me at least) is that you can grab intervals within one/two octaves with ease.
P.s, I've found that (now that I hve finally committed to doing 10 minutes of sightreading a day) sightreading is very very helpful for learning note names on the fretboard.
P.p.s using my out-loud voice and singing the intervals/note names helps me internalize it faster i think
I agree about sight reading. I found that sight reading, mostly in open position (EADGBe), but then sometimes in 5th position (ADGCEa), has helped a lot with learning note names up through the 8th fret. I should do more sight reading in 5th position.
That makes sense, to think of intervals/degree when playing scales positionally, since the patterns are moveable to change keys.
I am so used to hearing the notes of a major scale (and should make myself get used to a minor scale) that I was mainly curious how best to do string 4 and 6 such that my ear knows what sound to expect. It will take me a while to get used to hearing DEFGABCD or EFGABCDE. I think CDEFGABC on string 2, and ABCDEFGA on strings 5 and 3 (skipping the open G) are more familiar.
[Maybe that's my answer: do CDEFGABC on string 2. Then do ABCDEFGA on strings 5 and 3. Then later I can learn the sound of EFGABCDE (Phrygian?) and use that for strings 6, 4, and 1.]
I think the Do Re Me Do etc and the Do Mi, Re Fa, Mi So, etc will be fun both single-string and vertically. I can also warm up my ear first at the piano.
-Bill
Bill and Kim-you guys are working! Love your energy and creative ideas. Do and know everything!
I haven't sight read in 5th position yet, but I know where all the notes on the fretboard are.
It was a big deal to really learn them and helped me so much to keep going.
Follow all those theory lessons in order. They really help learn the fretboard. (One string one finger).
Keep us updated!
Kurt